Kat is joined by Cheryl Luke, a pastor and communicator, for a vulnerable conversation about how Bible readers need to process the storyline of Shechem. Together, Kat and Cherl expose the complexities of trauma, abuse, and highlight the transformative power of faith. The episode offers a raw conversation, urging listeners to reflect on their own experiences and find hope in the midst of pain. Episode Content Warning: This episode contains content related to sexual assault.  Quick Links Give feedback, ask questions, and download a free learning guide on Kat’s website The In-Between Place by Kat Armstrong: Kat’s book about Shechem and how Jesus can change our stories. Cheryl Luke: https://cherylluke.com/ Find Kat online: Instagram: @KatArmstrong1 Website: Katarmstrong.com The Storyline Project: www.thestorylineproject.com Episode Highlights:  Cheryl opens up about her own life experiences, revealing the complexities of growing up in a broken home and surviving abuse.  Kat and Cherly discuss the impact of silence surrounding rape, drawing parallels between Dinah's story and Cheryl's own journey. They explore the theme of naming and its significance, emphasizing the power of sharing stories to initiate healing. Cheryl's vulnerability in discussing her past experiences brings a unique depth to the conversation, creating a space for empathy and understanding. Cheryl underlines the redemptive role of Jesus, portraying him as the ultimate source of healing and hope in the midst of brokenness.  The episode concludes with a pastoral note, offering guidance to those processing trauma. She offers a poignant reminder: every story matters. And sharing one's experiences can have a ripple effect of healing and freedom. Holy Curiosity is a production of Christianity Today Executive Producers: Erik Petrik and Mike Cosper Producer: Leslie Thompson Associate Producer: McKenzie Hill Audio Editing: Kevin Morris Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices