What's the saying? Be Kind because everyone you meet is facing a hard battle. Within the story of todays guest, there was one monumental battle. I was over thrilled to get some time with one of my old mates, Natalie Tait - People Director at Artfarm. Our chat played out a little bit like a catch up but there's a lot to take away here including:- ArtfarmSchoolRejecting college for workFinding pubsRunning a pub at 20Changing direction through injuryRecruitmentD&DOpening a hotelBeing surrounded by great peopleBeing yourselfHome HouseAmbiguityBorough MarketSeeking help And so much more. Natalie is both a force of nature and a force for good within the industry. Natalie is also kind enough to recount one of the toughest moments of her life with openness and humour with some important lessons to be heard. It's a compelling chat and I hope you will enjoy! The Guest Natalie is the People Director at Artfarm. Artfarm are an independent hospitality and development company owned by Manuela and Iwan Wirth. Artfarm sets new boundaries for what cultural development can achieve. It adapts and reinvents unique sites that come with great stories by bringing together art, community, education, people and place. Artists are invited to celebrate these stories with site specific commissions. Public programmes are created to engage guests with art and locality. The local community is embraced and promoted through a celebration of the culture, customs, food and drink that make each site original. The Sponsor Today’s episode comes to you in partnership with RotaCloud, the people management platform for shift-based teams. RotaCloud lets managers create and share rotas, record attendance, and manage annual leave in minutes — all from a single, web-based app. It makes work simple for your team, too, allowing them to check their rotas, request holiday, and even pick up extra shifts straight from their phones. Try RotaCloud’s time-saving tools today by heading to https://rotacloud.com/phil This podcast uses the following third-party services for analysis: Podcorn - https://podcorn.com/privacy Chartable - https://chartable.com/privacy