Gretchen and Caroline are joined by NEW FRIEND Frankie to discuss race and racism in the A Song of Ice and Fire universe, covering the books, House of the Dragon, and Fire & Blood up until the end of Jaehaerys's reign. You know, just a nice light topic. Questions or comments? Email us at...

WE HAVE ANOTHER FRIEND!! Gretchen and Caroline are joined by guest Nick to discuss "Great Man Theory" in history and as applied to Fire & Blood. This continues to not be a Dune podcast. Questions or comments? Email us at [email protected]