We spoke to Isaac Brock of Modest Mouse from his home in the Pacific Northwest about menswear hateration, Costco hard ciders, modular synths and meth, investing in stained glass, Trump's bible, mushrooms on the tour bus, a social media rant, Chris makes a case for Hole, touring with R.E.M. and The National, getting roasted by Pat Smear at eighteen, how he linked with Johnny Marr, his vasectomy, and bald guys can rock too. www.modestmouse.com twitter.com/donetodeath twitter.com/themjeans Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices