The Mayan journey continues as Jack and Roddy move deeper into the Mexican jungle and set up shop at a new camp that is not without its (small and very, very well organised....) challenges - as they reach the Western front of humanity's battle with a colony of leaf cutter ants! But before they fall prey to the colony, it's time to get the flock together and head out looking at our feathered friends - as this week we're all about birds.  Learn about the different surveying methods used to study them, as well as that most crucial of scientific questions - WHY bother with birds?! And in a turn of events no one could have predicted when How many geese? started, Jack and Roddy sit down with local eco guide Ezekiel to talk not just birds - but learn some Mayan language along the way! For more information on Operation Wallacea, check out https://www.opwall.com/ To support the show by leaving us a donation to help keep growing the podcast, pelase visit https://www.buymeacoffee.com/howmanygeese Follow our Instagram page for updates here www.instagram.com/howmanygeese/