Mariana Mazzucato’s ideas have changed how governments see their role in the economy - but where do we go from here? Regular listeners will have heard the economist Mariana Mazzucato on this podcast before -- with George the Poet on modern-day moonshot programmes to can transform the economy, and with journalist Kamal Ahmed with a searing critique of the consulting industry. She recently returned to How To Academy to celebrate the tenth anniversary of the groundbreaking book that launched her career in the public eye - The Entrepreneurial State. The book that makes the compelling case that the state is not a bureaucratic machine standing in the way of progress, but a powerful force for innovation. What does that mean for the world in 2024 and the decades to come? She joined Hannah MacInnes to tell us more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices