The 'How to Be 60' Spin-Off Premiere (and possibly the only one!): Reflecting on their episode with Jane Garvey, Kaye and Karen discuss whether Kaye is a 'controlling witch' or just an assertive woman. Kaye realizes she's the same person she was at 15, while Karen shares her contentment with her life choices – tending to her greenhouse, spending time with her grandchild, and enjoying campervan adventures. Kaye also reflects on her upbringing with a hard-working, non-domestic mother and how that shaped her into the career-focused woman she is today. Get ready for a perfect blend of humor, insight, and relatable moments as these two friends navigate the complexities of being 60! Get in touch with your feedback and stories at [email protected] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices