How do I get into coding as a designer? Can programming be entertaining and on which platforms does the Creative Code community meet? In episode 38 of the Hurra Hurra Podcast, Christian Zöllner and Raphaël de Courville talk about ways in which skills can be imparted outside of traditional educational institutions and learning communities can assemble through online platforms like Discord. Furthermore, de Courville gives an insight into the question of how media artists benefit from NFTs and how harmful the NFT market really is to the climate.