Dan Hoban is the founder of Sadire, a clothing brand whose goal is to create an inclusive space to talk about sadness, a portion of their profit goes towards supporting the Crisis Text Line. We talk to him about building a community around sadness being okay, how the digital age has affected our mental health, and the importance of using humor, irony, exaggeration, or ridicule to poke fun at the societal norms that are making us unhappy. Make sure you subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you listen to podcasts so you never miss an episode. Connect with Yola: @yolarobert  Connect with Marta: @martapozzan  Connect with Dan: @danhoban I Am Real is produced by WestwoodWestwood.