Join Walter Veit, University of Reading scholar and pioneering author, as we navigate the intriguing and complex world of animal consciousness. Walter's expertise breathes new life into our understanding of how consciousness could have evolved across species, from the depths of the ocean with the octopus to the humble existence of the worm. Our conversation challenges long-standing human-centric views, uncovering the ethical ramifications of our interactions with animals, and sparking debate over the moral intricacies of artificial sentience, animal farming practices, and the future of lab-grown meat. Links to Dr. Veit's works: His website: https://walterveit.com/ His podcast: https://www.youtube.com/@DrWalterVeit His paper on clean meat: https://philarchive.org/rec/ANOFWB Can eugenics be defended?: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8321981/ Is humane slaughter possible?: https://philpapers.org/rec/BROIHA-7 Should parents genetically engineer their children?https://philarchive.org/archive/VEISPG Cognitive enhancement and inequality: https://philarchive.org/rec/VEICEA Mentioned in the episode: Do video game characters matter morally? https://reducing-suffering.org/do-video-game-characters-matter-morally/ The logic of the larder https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Replaceability_argument#:~:text=The%20replaceability%20argument%2C%20or%20the,would%20be%20brought%20into%20existence. Antechinus: https://www.nationalgeographic.com/science/article/why-a-little-mammal-has-so-much-sex-that-it-disintegrates Octopus teacher: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3s0LTDhqe5A