In this episode of the podcast, Colm and Gavin talk to on-the-rise music producer and artist Chris Kabs. Chris has lived in Congo and Sweden but has made Ireland his home for most of his adult life, where he's made a name for himself as a producer for Irish acts such as JYellowL and Tebi Rex. Chris also works on his own material, with his new song 'No Justice, No Peace' based upon the Black Lives Matter movement. We talk to Chris about his love for music and his story as writer and producer, along with a dive into the issues of racial injustice that have engulfed the news in recent months.