As the days tick on more is emerging about TVNZ Breakfast presenter Kamahl Santamaria and his abrupt exit from the broadcaster. This week on the In the Loop podcast journalist Katie Harris is joined by guest host Aaron Dahmen, as well as Tom Dillane who has been covering the developing situation at TVNZ. On the show Katie and Tom reveal what insiders have been feeling and explain how the drama has unfolded. Later in the show they discuss Jacinda Ardern's trip to the US, Sweden's strange dinner habit and the Heard v Depp decision.  Follow the show on Instagram at Itlpod. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.