TRIGGER WARNING: THIS EPISODE CONTAINS STRONG AND SOMETIMES GRAPHIC LANGUAGE INCLUDING DESCRIPTIONS OF RACISM/COLOURISM, VIOLENCE AND SPECIFICALLY SEXUAL VIOLENCE  In this episode of In The Ring, I hosted Ismail Lagardien, the author of Too White To Be Coloured, Too Coloured To Be White. Lagardien's book is painfully compelling as it mixes stories from a fascinating life he has lived, with incisive and challenging analyses about the social and political (un)realities of South Africa. I decided to focus closely, for now, on only some of the themes, including colourism, non-racialism and sexual violence. The conversation, while beautifully honest and authentic in my view, is nevertheless - at times - difficult listening. But I hope you find it worthwhile, and I most definitely recommend you buy and read his book.