Can one ever get enough of the incisive commentary of South African author, essayist and commentator Sisonke Msimang? I hosted her on this edition of In The Ring to explore aspects of the social and cultural impact of Queen Elizabeth II. I started off by asking Sisonke whether she would like an opportunity to mourn the Queen. I wonder what you will make of her response? It was uhm #Awks We explored a range of questions and issues, among them: the script of Empire, including "respectability and decorum" issues that Msimang explains as problematic in some of the responses to the death of the Queen; whether jocular responses, including the meme-ification of the monarchy, are acceptable or not; hypocritical tropes in how some Brits respond to their monarchy compared to the judgemental gaze of similar traditions elsewhere; whether or not the Queen is directly culpable for aspects of imperialism or 'merely' a beneficiary of unjust historical events; the place of monarchies in modern democracies; etc. Enjoy!