Dean Michael Weeder (St George's Cathedral, Cape Town) wrote a stunning and moving collection of poems and ruminations.  You have to - HAVE TO - listen to some of the poems and ruminations being read in this episode of In The Ring. And get yourself a copy of his anthology.  We talked, along the way, about jazz, social justice, aesthetics, celebrating the everyday, artistic technique and creativity, and so much more. Spoil yourself and listen to Dean Michael who is a wonderfully reflective guest, easy on the ear, with plenty of incisive gems to chew on... Enjoy.