Welcome to incChat: The Cynthia Johnson Show,  during this podcast episode, we sit down with Michael Challinger, the CEO of Houzer, to discuss the topic of "From CMO to CEO: How Marketers Can Become Leaders." In this episode, Michael shares his personal journey from a Chief Marketing Officer to a CEO and the skills and mindset shifts he had to make to succeed in this transition. We dive into the common misconceptions about marketers as leaders and how marketers can leverage their unique skill sets to become successful CEOs. Michael also shares his thoughts on the importance of communication, collaboration, and risk-taking in leadership. If you are a marketer aspiring to become a leader or a CEO looking to better understand the value of marketers in leadership roles, this episode is for you. Tune in to gain insights and inspiration from Michael's experiences and expertise. Our guest, Michael Challinger LinkedInTwitter .inc Domains Build, Elevate, And Protect Your Brand With .incSpecial offer from our sponsor incChat is brought to us in partnership with .inc Domains, a premium top-level domain provider. .inc Domains is offering a unique discount code for you to get 20% off your .inc domains! Follow these simple steps: Search for your .inc domain at get.inc/cynthia and be sure to use coupon code “CYNTHIA” at checkout. Choose "Namecheap" as the option to buy and enter code “CYNTHIA” to save 20% on first-year registrations on all base-tier domains.