Picasso was a complicated man, whose long life was also marked by tumultuous marriages, affairs and shifting politics. It was a life that needed more than just two hours to explore, which is why Imagine TV's Brian Grazer and Ron Howard, along with executive producer and director Ken Biller, gravitated toward the icon. And just like the first "Genius," they hired two actors in order to capture Picasso both as a young man just starting out, and as an aging genius. To play young Picasso, they found Alex Rich, whose credits include GLOW and True Detective. And for Picasso in his prime, there was real serendipity in landing Antonio Banderas, who happens to be from Malaga, Spain, which is also Picasso's birthplace. IndieWire's TURN IT ON podcast recently sat down with Banderas and Rich to discuss the complicated life of Picasso, and how it's hard to separate the man from his art — because he never separated the two. (Music by Omar Khan and Hook Sounds.)