30 years ago, cyber security involved little more than firewalls and desktop AV. But today's security tools, expertise, and services are so numerous and complex that few if any, organizations can claim to have everything they need 'in-house'. Due to various needs and constraints, including budgets, it is a constant struggle to balance what capabilities should be in-house and which can be safely outsourced. This episode of ThreatTalk explores the fundamentals behind most outsourcing decisions with the help of telco and service provider veteran David Ayers. Join host Bob Hansmann and his guests for this exploratory discussion on "getting help" with your cybersecurity. Tune in to the live broadcast on LinkedIn every first and third Tuesday of the month at 11:00 am (PST). Subscribe to the ThreatTalk podcast on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, SoundCloud, or Stitcher.