Liane asks Fernando Garcia about the state of our planet and whether sustainability is a realistic focus.  Should we hold on to a belief that we can live in a sustainable way with 8 billion people on this planet – or should we start thinking about the possibility that this may not be realistic – and start reflecting on what is truly worth saving, what we need to let go off and what we need to come to terms with? Fernando is a former Director of Health and Wellbeing at the European Commission. While is not a scientist he is one of the most informed citizens I know. Since he retired two years ago, he has been attending and facilitating retreats where he explores how we relate to nature. In this podcast he raises some tough questions but also offers answers that not only present a more realistic future but also one that is more enjoyable and in connection with our ourselves and with nature. This is the final episode of our first podcast season. We look forward to continuing this journey together.  For the next season we will open up the podcast platform to new facilitators and guests. If you want to join our podcast team or be an occasional contributor, send a message to [email protected] – we would love to hear from you! Equally as we are all volunteers, we would welcome financial donations to cover the costs and support the ongoing functioning of our podcast. Anyhow, we loved making this first podcast season and look forward to continue the exploration together! For now enjoy this special episode with Fernando Garcia! About Fernando Garcia (https://guidance.deepadaptation.info/guide/fernando-garcia-ferreiro/) About Liane Stephan (https://awaris.com/team/profile-liane-stephan/) Interested to contribute to the Inner Green Deal podcast? Send a mail to Jeroen Janss of the Inner Green Deal Initiative via [email protected] (mailto:[email protected]). Thank you!