We start off the 4th season on a positive note with the self described biggest pessimist in the world of animation, Mike Smolev. We talk about how he got into creating an animated show because he wanted good sound design and his harrowing journey so far, including 3 different attempts at a pilot and why he is doing stand up as a way to be able to pitch the show. Plus we find out the one animated show he thinks is any good and I squeeze a bit of advice out of him. To find out more about The Hunk and Grody Show and watch what is out there so far, go to www.mikesmolev.com --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/inside-animation/message Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/inside-animation/support