Host Brian Stelter joins Naomi Klein for a trip into the mirror world, the subject of her unsettling new book, “Doppelganger.” They discuss Klein’s own mirror self—the conspiratorial writer Naomi Wolf—how Steve Bannon shapes political narratives, and the challenges of understanding what’s happening on the ground in Israel and Gaza as an information war plays out alongside the carnage. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices