This is an audio recording of a salon held on October 19th, 2023, with Arash Azizi about socialism, liberalism, and the Israeli Palestinian conflict. Arash Azizi, a specialist on Iran, and Celeste Marcus, a liberal Zionist, discussed how Arash’s socialism and Celeste's liberalism inform their views of the current paroxysms. Both of their ideologies are universalist, and that universalism is in tension with their respective tribalisms. Arash: https://twitter.com/arash_tehran?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor Celeste: https://twitter.com/Celestemarcus3 Interintellect: https://twitter.com/interintellect_