Get ready for a long & fun episode! In this one, Scott Smith had a blast talking to both Malin Sundberg and Kai Dombrowski about almost everything! Terrible jokes, creepy crawlies (sorry!), Malin & Kai's awesome time-tracking and time-based invoicing app called Orbit, SwiftUI, developing for both macOS and iOS, marketing, and more!  Find the Orbit app at https://timeinorbit.com Malin Sundberg on Twitter @malinsundberg https://twitter.com/malinsundberg Kai Dombrowski on Twitter @airkai https://twitter.com/airkai Scott Smith on Twitter @scottsmithdev https://twitter.com/scottsmithdev Scott Smith on YouTube https://youtube.com/scottsmithdev --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/scottsmithdev/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/scottsmithdev/support