Today’s episode is the second part of journalist Nick Witchell’s conversation with Steve at the 2023 ISF Congress in Rotterdam. As organisations become increasingly data-driven, technologies like artificial intelligence and quantum computing will have a huge impact on data security. Today, Steve looks at how security professionals can help their organisations adopt these technologies safely and smartly. Key Takeaways: 1. Trade policy is feeling the effects of geopolitical conflicts. 2. Major technological advancements are not without environmental impact. 3. Business leaders would do well to remember that data in any quantitity can be faulty, can be tampered with, making regulation and collaboration all the more important. Tune in to hear more about: 1. Conflicts such as the war in Ukraine shine a particular light on organisations’ areas of vulnerability. (2:42) 2. In the context of global warming, quantum computing poses major challeges. (5:50) 3. As quantity of data increases exponentially, so does the importance of quality. (9:33) Standout Quotes: 1. “I think that the situation in the Ukraine, in particular, was a huge wake up call for a lot of organisations and a lot of individuals. I think very few people actually understood the way in which complex supply chains today actually operate. We do take things for granted, don't we?” -Steve Durbin 2. “Quantum computing requires immense computing power. Immense computing power requires a huge amount of electricity and generates a huge amount of heat. So if you think about all of those things in the environmental context, we really do need to figure out how we're going to exist in a world where global warming is a reality, where we are really driving as hard as we can in pursuit of different technological answers.” -Steve Durbin 3. “My biggest concern, the biggest threat that I see is data that has been tampered with. Because you or I may look at something and think that doesn't look quite right, so we'll dig into it. A machine doesn't necessarily do that.” -Steve Durbin Mentioned in this episode: Securing the Supply Chain During periods of instability Threat Horizon 2025:  Scenarios for an uncertain future – executive summary ISF Analyst Insight Podcast Read the transcript of this episode Subscribe to the ISF Podcast wherever you listen to podcasts Connect with us on LinkedIn and Twitter From the Information Security Forum, the leading authority on cyber, information security, and risk management.