A self-confessed "Egg Head To The Bones", Joel has picked up A Hologram For The King for the first time in 11 years. But will he love it as much as he did the first time? Probably, yes. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

After last week's venture into 'Cherry', a masterclass in dialogue, Joel's been on the hunt for more conversation. As you'll hear on the episode, they've not all been the most captivating, but he did read Rachel Cusk's 'Outline' which is a novel (novella?) set over ten conversations with...