Mo and AZ are joined by Grammy-nominated rapper, singer, and actor Tobe Nwigwe and filmmaker, producer, and screenwriter Bassam Tariq to discuss Alief: what it was like growing up in a suburb of Houston, and its lasting impact on who they are today. Alief (aka “SWAT” - Southwest Alief Texas) also gave the world Beyoncé, Lizzo, and a bunch of other artists and entertainers. Is there something in the water? Guests: Tobe Nwigwe, Bassam Tariq ORIGINAL AUDIO PRODUCTION, MUSIC & SOUND DESIGN BY SALT Executive Produced by Mo Amer, Azhar Usman, Noah Gersh, Jamie Schefman, Nick Panama, Kenzi Wilbur Head of Creative: Jordan Galvan  Head of Production: Liz LeMay Head of Post Production: Robert Adler Producers: Imran Ali Malik & Aaron Kennedy  Supervising Producers: Allie Strobel & Alice Bearn Post Production Supervisor: Aly Honoré Post Production Coordinator: Jax Raffle  Edited by: Geoffrey Mutchnik and Aaron Kennedy  Sound Design and Music by: Matthew Chilelli Mixed by: Aaron Kennedy  Recorded by Aaron Kennedy, Zack Djurich and Mario Borgatta  Guest Booking by Drive Entertainment and Hager Eldaas Additional music courtesy of Extreme Music. Joking Not Joking is a Luminary Original, and a co-production between SALT, Legally Homeless, Inc., and Numinous Company, Inc.