Journalist Lisa LaFlamme has been called “Canada’s Katie Couric.” She was the familiar face coming into viewers’ homes and delivering the news each night, having worked for CTV for 35 years.  But last summer, she became the face of female outrage when she was unceremoniously let go from her job anchoring the evening news. Her former employers denied ageism or sexism played a role in her firing, but viewers wondered if her choice to go gray during the pandemic - as so many women did - was the real cause. Katie and Lisa dive into the unequal pressures women face in the workforce, why we lionize men who’ve gone gray, the “isms” they’ve both faced as women in media, and so much more. Want to be a know-it-all? Subscribe to Wake Up Call, our jam-packed newsletter. Monday through Saturday, we break down the top news stories of the day, answer your pressing questions, and scour the internet for the best entertainment tidbits, streaming recommendations, recipes, and health and wellness tips. To sign up, go to katiecouric.com, or click here. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.