Shawn Cooper (@shvwnfvckingcooper) started posting stories to Instagram titled “The Real OITNB” and laid out an interesting case of why she is 100% convinced that she knows who the real women are behind the characters in Orange is the New Black. In part 2 of Kiki’s interview with Shawn, we hear about the time she met Ruby Rose, the actress who played the OITNB character that Shawn says is based on her. Shawn also updates us on what the other women she was incarcerated with think about this situation and how Shawn believes the public, and Piper Kerman could help.  Kiki also unveils her Hall of Shame series, where each week new celebs, public figures and others who have made headlines during the week will be inducted for their shameful behavior.  To help Shawn fund her film head to: https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/the-real-women-behind-orange-is-the-new-black#/ More from Kiki with The Talk of Shame: Instagram: @thetalkofshame TikTok: @thetalkofshame YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/TheTalkofShame Blog: https://thedipp.com/author/kiki This is a Redd Rock Music Podcast IG: @reddrockmusic www.reddrockmusic.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices