EVERY OTHER KREATIVE KONTROL EPISODE IS ONLY ACCESSIBLE TO $6 PATREON SUPPORTERS. Enjoy this excerpt and please subscribe now via this link to hear this full episode. Thanks! Jim White and Marisa Anderson discuss their lovely new album Swallowtail, why they recorded it in Australia, the distinction between ideas, possibilities, and arrangements in an improvised music practice, melodic drumming and rhythmic guitar, the Velvet Underground, peregrination and the natural world, the artwork of Anna White, cats and the Bitterroot Valley, things I think I see that might not be real, touring more than ever, future plans, and much more. Support vish on Patreon! Thanks to Pizza Trokadero, the Bookshelf, Planet Bean Coffee, and Grandad’s Donuts. Support Y.E.S.S. and Black Women United YEG. Follow vish online. Related episodes/links: Ep. #865: Myriam Gendron Ep. #849: Jim White and Guy Picciotto Ep. #768: Guy Picciotto & Xylouris White Ep. #718: Marisa Anderson Ep. #633: Marisa Anderson & William Tyler Ep. #541: Jim White and Marisa Anderson Ep. #400: Guy Picciotto & Xylouris White Ep. #293: Marisa Anderson Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/kreative-kontrol. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.