This episode’s theme is Acceptance, and Ana and Stevie are joined from LA by guest producer Kara Hart. She meets the founders of fashion label Universal Standard to discuss what Rihanna once described as “the pleasures of a fluctuating body”. Plus, some thoughts on dungarees, unlearning, and whether Stevie is allowed to shop in Massimo Dutti yet. Kara Hart is an audio producer in Los Angeles. You can learn more at [https://karahart.info/](https://karahart.info/) Universal Standard is available online [https://www.universalstandard.com/collections/new](https://www.universalstandard.com/collections/new) Find us on Instagram [https://www.instagram.com/layers.podcast/](https://www.instagram.com/layers.podcast/) If you liked today’s show, please rate and review us on Apple Podcasts! Production by [Lucy Dearlove.](https://lucydearlove.com/) Music: E's Jammy Jams - Arabian Sand (via YouTube Music Library), Kevin MacLeod - Acid Jazz, Kevin MacLeod - Hard Boiled, Aaron Liebermann - Gypsy Stroll (via YouTube Music Library)