Sallie Jones, Co-Founder and Director, Gippsland Jersey on promoting a fair go for farmers, driving social change in rural mental health and encouraging a culture of kindness. Hear how Sally forges her leadership by finding comfort in the uncomfortable and having courageous conversations.   Key Insights (02:08) How did Sallie start her leadership journey? Sallie was born on a dairy farm. She didn’t attend school until Grade 6 but saw her ability to make things happen when she became school captain in Year 12. Sallie’s most recent leadership journey involved created a milk brand centering on three pillars of: farmers being paid a fair price, raising awareness of mental health in regional communities and kindness. (16:05) How does Sallie make the most out of drastic situations? Sallie believes that diamonds are made under pressure and there’s always opportunity in adversity and in order for us to create the opportunity, we have to go through the ‘hard stuff’. It’s also important to have people you trust. Sallie has a phone full of contacts she can call at any time and urges ‘Don’t do it alone.’ (23:38) What tool can Sallie share to the audience to add to their Leadership Toolbox? Sallie advises to find the comfortable in the uncomfortable. One way Sallie does this is by having cold showers guided by an app called Wim Hof. Sallie believes it a great tool for mental health, regulating your breathing and something we can all do. Important Resources and Links This podcast contains content about mental health and suicide, which some people may find confronting. If you or someone you know needs support, visit beyondblue.org.au or call Lifeline on 13 11 14. If you’d like to learn more about how CommBank is supporting the growth of women in business visit https://www.commbank.com.au/women-in-focus.html   Host of the Leading Women podcast, Shivani Gopal is a serial entrepreneur, speaker and advocate on a mission to create a more equal world. She’s recognised as a leading business thought leader helping professional women navigate their careers, businesses and financial success. As the Founder and CEO of The Remarkable Woman and Co-Founder of Upstreet, Shivani was recently awarded the 2022 NSW Excellence in Women's Leadership Award and the Top 50 Small Business Leaders award, As a dedicated advocate for gender equality and for closing the wealth gap for everyday Australians, Shivani launched “Equality 2050”; a campaign to achieve gender equality within our lifetimes. If you’re interested in learning more about Shivani visit her website: https://www.theremarkablewoman.com.au/ The Leading Women podcast is proudly brought to you by Commonwealth Bank.  The series is produced by Nicole Hatherly, recorded at RadioHub Studios with post production by Cooper Silk and Iain Wilson. Things you should know: Guests featured in the podcast are speaking from their personal experiences only. As this podcast has been prepared without considering your objectives, financial situation or needs, you should, before acting on the content consider its appropriateness to your circumstances. CommBank does not necessarily endorse the views of a particular individual or guarantee the accuracy of the information provided.