After taking a month-long break from recording, Komal is back this week to introduce an eye-opening conversation that she had with Jam Gamble, a multi-passionate media personality and speaker at Gem Conference last month. The conversation at the conference was planned spontaneously, as it took place the week following the murder of George Floyd, and both Jam and Komal felt it was important to hold space for a conversation about anti-Black and Indigenous racism. In their conversation, Komal and Jam discussed the steps that we can take to best show up for anti-racist work going forward, and how we can build collective resilience as we commit to being anti-racist long term.