A podcast about learning to lead for creativity. I'm talking to some inspiring creative leaders with great stories to share about their 'made not born' leadership journey. Today's guest is Kenneth Barlage, MD of New York based creative content studio MATTE Projects. Super smart, effortlessly engaging but still endearingly modest, Kenneth is a great example of an authentic and deeply human modern leader. We talk about leading for creativity with a supportive style, the importance of pacing yourself and staying positive through a change journey and how we all need to rediscover our boundaries at this point in the pandemic. I hope our conversation will give you a little fuel for your own made not born journey.