Eugene and Charis discuss our relationship to work and our sense of ownership over our time. They also talk about challenges scientists face when communicating their ideas clearly around how to present complex thoughts. 00:06:05 Time and work 00:30:33 Communications Scientists need to get better at talking to the public. Why doesn’t training seem to help? by Robert Wyss, Margaret Rubega, and Robert Capers Against “Feel Free To Take Some Time If You Need It" by Anne Helen Petersen Support us at patreon.com/maekan and join our community, which includes weekly newsletters and a vibrant Discord. --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/maekanitup/message