In this episode, we air the panel response to the inaugural H. George Frederickson Memorial Lecture from the 2023 Social Equity Leadership Conference. The panel, hosted by Terry Gerton, included,  Dean Susan Gooden of the Wilder School of Government and Public Affairs at VCU, Norton Bonaparte, City Manager of Sanford, Florida, Marcia Conner, Executive Director of the National Forum for Black Public Administrators, and Dr. DeAngela Burns-Wallace former Kansas Department of Administration Secretary. Support the Podcast Today at: [email protected] or 202-347-3190 Music Credits: Sea Breeze by Vlad Gluschenko | https://soundcloud.com/vgl9 Music promoted by https://www.free-stock-music.com Creative Commons Attribution 3.0 Unported License https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/deed.en_