Amanda Ripley is a New York Times bestselling author and an investigative journalist for the Atlantic, Politico, the Washington Post and other outlets. Today she joins me to talk about her book, HIGH CONFLICT: Why We Get Trapped & How We Get Out This is a fascinating look at the polarising conflicts of our times - whether it's Left vs Right, race vs race, state vs state, gang vs gang, activism vs establishment or any other conflict rooted in polarity, high conflict destroys relationships, communities and lives. If, like me, you're interested in escaping the "tar pits" of high conflict, you need to check out this interview and the book to go with it.  As a side note, this will be the last regular interview episode of the Managing Violence Podcast. It's been a great run. I will be closing out with one more reflective episode, but this is the final interview and I'm happy to end it on this note. Enjoy!