Welcome to the Meaningful Work Matters podcast! This episode features Michael Steger, a prominent expert in the field of meaning and purpose in life who has spent over two decades researching, defining, and redefining the dimensions of meaning in life and its application to meaningful work. His work has reshaped our understanding of how individuals find purpose, experience meaning, and navigate the complex interplay between personal and professional fulfillment.  Over the years, Michael's research and expertise have played a pivotal role in reshaping the field of meaning as well as the roles that leaders can play in cultivating an ethical relationship to meaningful work.  Their conversation also explores the role of suffering in the pursuit of meaningful work and its connection to historical and societal beliefs about the value of work. Michael reflects on how suffering in certain high-stress, meaningful professions is perceived as a necessary sacrifice, contrasting it with roles perceived as devoid of inherent meaning but well-compensated. Overall, this episode offers a fascinating insight into the intricate web of meaning in life and work, providing valuable guidance for leaders striving to create purposeful and fulfilling experiences in the modern world.