Steven Rinella talks with Dave Simonett of Trampled By Turtles, Ryan Callaghan, Maggie Smith, Sam Lungren, Phil Taylor, and Janis Putelis. Topics discussed: An elderly woman’s plea to American men: carry heavy shit and buy a tool kit; hound dog training with live vs. dead raccoons; Dave's first fly fishing experience with the MeatEater crew; Steve is forced to reckon with a stand-up paddleboard; the proper way to grill trout in a campground; Dave’s adult onset pheasant hunting; unleashing the word “poverty”; does bluegrass have too many notes?; art and creation as something not to be defined and categorized; needing nature to write music and songs growing out of the dirt; the intersection between the music world and the hunting world; Steve's ladder rule on trapping, hunting, and fishing; Dave doing his online gun safety course in the green room; imposing your will on your garden; and more.   Connect with Steve and MeatEater Steve on Instagram and Twitter MeatEater on Instagram, Facebook, Twitter, and Youtube Shop MeatEater Merch