Steven Rinella talks with Oliver Ngy, Miles Nolte, Joe Cermele, Kevin Harlander, Corinne Schneider, and Ryan Callaghan. Topics discussed: engineering ideas for glass bottom drift boats; hitting a hornet's nest with a fish and then getting attacked by that hornet; night panther popsicles; how Cal protects sausage from his hand hairs with latex gloves; Jon Gary and the star Starcraft of Das Boat, Season 2: Dos Boat; how Steve learned a lot about surf casting from Joe Cermele's book; explaining what a passive feeder is; how harness rigging a chipmunk as bait just does not fly today; how musky should be rebranded back to muskellunge; the beauty of trying something new and FOMO holding you back from experimenting; cast counting; Oliver Ngy's uber polished cast and figure 8s; what social media and the internet have done to fishing; conservation as conservation vs. when economics and recreation impact conservation management; when fish fall from the sky and hit your car; the time when Kevin blanked on a hole; Miles educating about big mouth buffalo; and more.   Connect with Steve and MeatEater Steve on Instagram and Twitter MeatEater on Instagram, Facebook, Twitter, and Youtube Shop MeatEater Merch See omnystudio.com/policies/listener for privacy information.