We had a great time catching up with our old friend Andy Ortmann of Panicsville and Nihilist Recordings. Andy has been doing it since 1992 with no signs of stopping. From his beginnings in St. Louis to relocating to Chicago, we go into his entire noise history. Ortmann has worked with innumerable artists and his passion for the underground has never wavered. Head thru a portal to the outer limits and forget about the return. For the ExtraNoisextra segment on the patreon, Mike pulls out a compilation VHS that Andy made for Mike over 20 years ago. We go through the entire contents and have a blast heading down VHS memory lane. Visit Nihilist's website and bandcampCheck out The Eternal Now, Andy's show on WFMUFollow us on Instagram: @noisextraFollow us on Twitter: @noisextraaaSupport us on Patreon: patreon.com/noisextra