Carrie Pickett Erway, Senior Community Investment Officer at the Kalamazoo Community Foundation, tells colleague Deborah Higgins, Program Associate at The Fetzer Institute, about how she entered the field of philanthropy as an intern and ended up as program officer. Carrie also talks about grantmaking's challenges - like turning down grantees - but also positives like participating as a facilitator at a local Challenge Day activity at Bangor High School.