Fungi that are resistant to antifungal drugs have been very much in the news and even the subject of the hugely popular television program, The Last of Us. We talk with two experts in mycology and fungal susceptibility testing about the recent descriptions of terbinafine-resistant dermatophytes in the United States. Some of the questions we will address include:  • What are the manifestations of infections caused by terbinafine-resistant dermatophytes?  • What species, including novel species, of dermatophytes are more commonly resistant to terbinafine?  • How common is terbinafine resistance in dermatophytes in the U.S.? Guests: - Dr. Shawn Lockhart - Senior Advisor at the Centers for Disease Control - Dr. Nathan Wiederhold - Director of the Fungus Testing Laboratory and a Professor at UT Health San Antonio. This episode of Editors in Conversation is brought to you by the Journal of Clinical Microbiology and hosted by JCM Editor in Chief, Alex McAdam and Dr. Elli Theel. Editors in conversation is supported by the American Society for Microbiology, which publishes JCM. If you are a member of ASM, you can get up to 50% off the publication fees when you publish in JCM or any of the ASM journals. Visit https://journals.asm.org/journal/jcm to read articles and/or submit a manuscript. Follow EIC, Alex McAdam on twitter for JCM updates via https://twitter.com/JClinMicro and co-host, Elli Theel at https://twitter.com/ETheelPhD. Subscribe to the podcast at https://asm.org/eic