In this episode, Wendy speaks with biological anthropologist and contemplative researcher Jenny Mascaro. Jenny's work weaves together meditation, compassion, psychology, and healthcare, and moves us toward a deeper understanding of interconnectedness. This conversation covers many topics, including: her interest in social cognition in animals - and humans; what compassion is, and how it's different from empathy; biological basis of compassion, and the role of oxytocin; how social factors and context shape compassion; training compassion and the skills underlying it; understanding self-compassion; the under-appreciated role of hospital chaplains; compassion training for chaplains; preparing for interpersonal interactions; how compassion shows up in language; how compassionate care can help anxiety and depression; responding to healthcare provider stress; how meditation has changed her; and building awareness of interdependence. Full show notes and resources