Elliot Jurist and I had planned to have a recorded conversation about his perspectives on the human mind. Ten days before our conversation, his father passed away. So we talked about the process of mourning and how it relates to the human condition. Elliot Jurist, Ph.D., Ph.D. is Professor of Psychology at The City College of New York, CUNY.  From 2004-2013, he served as the Director of the Clinical Psychology Doctoral Program at CUNY. From 2008-2018, he was the Editor of Psychoanalytic Psychology, the journal of Division 39 of the APA. He is the editor of a book series, Psychoanalysis and Psychological Science, from Guilford, and author of a book in the series, Minding Emotions: Cultivating Mentalization in Psychotherapy, which was named best theoretical book in 2019 by the American Board and Academy of Psychoanalysis. He is the author of Beyond Hegel and Nietzsche: Philosophy, Culture and Agency  (MIT Press, 2000) and co-author of Affect Regulation, Mentalization and the Development of the Self (Other Press, 2002), and co-editor of Mind to Mind: Infant Research, Neuroscience, and Psychoanalysis (Other Press, 2008).  In 2014, he received the Scholarship Award from Division 39 of the APA. Published October 2021.