A social enterprise can scale impact in different ways, but the deepest and largest way lies at the systems level. Joining Katell Le Goulven to explore the complex dynamic of system change are INSEAD Alumna Cynthia Rayner and serial social entrepreneur Jeroo Billimoria. They unpack what it takes to have impact at a systemic level, how a social enterprise can change a system and advice to those wanting to make that deep rooted change.