Jose and Dustin Hall dive deep into some principles that will keep your church from becoming irrelevant. They go into how “our message” is something that helps us to lead people to a person, who is Jesus, not just a code of truth, that when referred to as “our message” makes us become insanely defensive and leaves other people out. Here, Dustin also explains his concepts: “you can’t love people you don’t know and you can’t change people you don’t love” as well “the ministry of the word without the ministry of presence is no ministry at all…” Dustin Hall is the pastor of the Port Charlotte Adventist Church in Florida. When he recorded this podcast he was the pastor of Grace Outlet Church and led the GO Community Center in Reading, Pennsylvania. For more info on Port Charlotte Adventist Church go to: @pcsdachurch on Facebook. Connect with Jose Cortes Jr. through our website nadministerial.com or Social Media (Facebook, Twitter, Instagram) @josehcortesjr