Sponsors Sentry use the code “devchat” for 2 months free on Sentry small plan Triplebyte offers a $1000 signing bonus CacheFly Host: Charles Max Wood Joined By Special Guests: Ely Lucas and Mike Hartington Episode Summary Coming to you live from the podcast booth at ng-conf 2019 is Charles Max Wood with Ely Lucas and Mike Hartington. Ely and Mike both work at Ionic, an app developer platform that helps developers build and deploy cross-platform apps. A heated discussion on who had the beard first (Jeff Cross or Mike Hartington) ensues, (spoiler alert it's Jeff Cross because he is OLDER than Mike Hartington) as they try to find out who is running the @HartingtonBeard Twitter account. Ely and Mike talk about what they have been working on at Ionic, and the 4.0 release of Ionic Framework. This is Ely's first time at ng-conf and Mike's first time giving a talk at it. They talk about how the conference has evolved for the better and what their favorite parts of the conference are. Links My JavaScript Story 080: Ely Lucas My Angular Story 053: Ely Lucas Adventures in Angular 226: Ionic with Mike Hartington Views on Vue 034: Mike Hartington & Michael Tintiuc : “Ionic and Vue” My Angular Story 050: Mike Hartington Adventures in Angular 150: What’s New with Ionic with Mike Hartington My Angular Story 003 Mike Hartington Ionic Ely Lucas’ Twitter Ely Lucas’ LinkedIn Ely Lucas’ GitHub Mike Hartington's Twitter Mike Hartington's LinkedIn Mike Hartington's Website Ionic 4.0  @HartingtonBeard @JeffCrossBeard ng-conf 2019