In this episode top UK Lawyer Karin Walker and Narcissism expert Dr Supriya McKenna talk with Hybrid Mediators Rachael Oakes (who also sits as a Deputy District Judge) and Claire Colbert about the need to educate solicitors and clients about hybrid mediation. They discuss why court should be  last resort, and why so called 'alternative' dispute resolution should be renamed 'First Line Dispute Resolution'. They discuss the traumas of the court system, the fact that one can drop out of the court system into mediation at any time and how hybrid mediation can even be run alongside a court application, with court as a backstop. They also discuss the realities of the power of the court, and the issues of obtaining truthful, complete financial disclosure from a narcissist.