In this episode Dr Supriya McKenna and Karin Walker talk to internationally renowned Narcissism expert and psychotherapist Dr Elinor Greenberg. They delve into what 'healthy narcissism' is, how people become narcissists, and what determines whether a child will become a narcissist. Elinor differentiates narcissists from psychopaths and gives her view on the idea that narcissists are 'evil' - and she recommends her psychology.com article "Narcissistic Judo" for those who wish to try to keep things smooth with a narcissist.