This podcast features Ayesha Khan and Dr. Shehla Khan in conversation with Dr. Sher Ali Tareen, Associate Professor of Religious Studies, Department Chair of Religious Studies at Franklin Marshall College, and author of the widely acclaimed volume, Defending Muhammad in Modernity. Taking its cue from the political crisis that has erupted in Pakistan since the ouster of Prime Minister Imran Khan in April 2022, the episode traverses the various articles that Dr. Tareen published prior to and during Khan’s tenure in government on the interface between what he terms ‘Imranophobia’, secular liberalism, and Islamophobia. Although the episode is primarily focused on Pakistan, its themes are resonant with political struggles and faultlines in other states across Muslimstan.